2. This put undo pressure on the marriage and Chris being the douche bag he is, it was too much pressure to perform I beleive. Thus, the little girls may have been unconscious but they were NOT COMPLETELY DEAD YET.and that is how oil got into their LUNGS !!!!!!!!! His aversion to it is so blatant, and its obvious why. To the extent on the spectrum that it played out is the horror. Heres what the autopsy says about Shananns cause of death: The autopsy report said that Shanann had a history of being reported missing and subsequently found unresponsive in obvious state of death in a shallow grave. The cause of death was Asphyxiation due to manual strangulation with Bruising of the Anterior strap muscles of the neck.. I learned all about a Sleeper/Chokeholdhated that part of SO academy, but is a great way to gain upper-hand, control over a perp and render them unconscious with one thump of my forearm on their neck/carotid artery.,, you black out immediately! One thing that was truthful that came out of NKs mouth was that he lied about everything. He asked to speak to his father before confessing. You can argue till the cows come home and all you end up arguing is that she could be in any non-specific place in the house. I feel like maybe she did meet them. She strangled them.. He just switched. GREELEY, Colo. Authorities released Monday the autopsy reports of Shanann Watts, 34; Bella Watts, 4; and Celeste Watts, 3. People with OCD can have obsessions related to a wide variety of things, including losing control, hurting others, unwanted sexual thoughts, and many more. August 4, 2018, 12:45 a.m.: Shanann sends her husband a long text message accusing him of failing to stand up for her after his parents exposed their daughter Celeste to nuts, which she was allergic to. These are just my opinions (based on zero knowledge). And in his own words under his own free will he admitted he act it killed his kids twice before that was ever said. Chris said Shanann arrived home from a trip. Like a scene from Friday the 13th. Areas of bruising, internal. He asked one time if he should go look for his familyhe did not ask again about looking and he did not seem overly concerned, the police report said. One of the unknowns in this case is why Watts did what he did. Thanks for making the reports public. Watts was arrested on August 15, 2018. Do not make it more complex than it need be please. @Eleni Let me put it this way there is zero evidence that Shanann was upstairs. I cannot get over what he did. Otherwise I cant imagine why she didnt go for his eyes etc. As far as the BAC goes, it had been over 100 hours from the estimated time of death to when the samples were taken at autopsy. https://youtu.be/U8fe6Ckeh5A?t=210. I am doing a project for school and i would like to have a look at them. 2. Chris said that she often went straight to bed without showering after a flight, saying that shed shower and wash bedding to rid it of the airport in the morning. I slept in my bras with all four of my pregnancies. I guess since theyre children and small its possible. 19th Judicial District Attorney Michael Rourke said that Watts totally and deliberately ended four lives, smothering the girls. what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids?. Ive slept in my bra for 25 years since I got my first breast implants. Considering the size of shananns house before they moved there. Or do you believe his lies, that she harmed the kids and then he did same to her? Esophageal strictures are typically treated with a procedure called esophageal dilation, during which a physician uses a small balloon to stretch open the scar tissue causing the narrowing in the esophagus. Thankyou. It is my opinion that one could not have this mix in the stomach unless it was swallowed and if the stomping on the head didnt bring Bella out of unconsciousness before being immersed in the oil, then she was very possibly (and hopefully) unaware of what was happening. Part of the evidence that he put into the trash. How did Shanann Watts die? I cant believe the police let them stay in there. How dare you blame the victim? It is my observation that Bella was unconscious but still breathing when she was and stomped on her head to get her into the tank. The toxicology results likely represent decomposition and an artifact of being submerged in an oil tank for several days. The one person who took a few breaths almost immediately fainted. Hes asked whether Shannan was strangling CeCe or smothering her, at first he says strangling because this is the only thing that makes his story believable but afterwards he knows theyll be no marks so he says hes not sure. I find it odd that Shanann was wearing a bra when found. Or perhaps he left when the sun was coming up because thats when he usually left for work. Just like those rare occasions where you laughed so hard you peed in your pants, you will pee and poop in the spontaneous relaxation of your muscles following death. But legally it was in Chriss name. Same with NK. It was on an automatic answering thing. But there were some issues. Usually when theres a fight while strangulation is occurring the perpetrator uses so much force the hyoid bone is broken; shannans was not. Or look up the video of the DA talking about the autopsies. She didnt nick him in the neck, that mark was not from her nails. Why else would he go there with 3 bodies? The same instinct that we as parents have to call somebody for help when our children our hurt. Its actually not uncommon. Even in this scenario, you would expect fingernails in his forearm if Watts managed a rapid 10 second kill. Debbie do you have a link to that 411 Documentary please? I think she died in bed after being knocked unconscious using Marks ethanol method. If CW is the type of father that would never hurt his girls, then his behavior after pulling Shannan off CeCe would be to call 911, try CPR ( he had classes at work) When non murderous parents are confronted with the loss or potential loss of their children they get desperate. So I do see how Chris did this and ended up with no defensive injuries from her. I havent seen one statement from anyone who knew her well say she did. Also ethanol in the oil would not seep into the spleen in a body in 3 days to produce a high level like that, besides most ethanol is extracted through many processes prior to any petroleum company dumping the waste oil. Shanann Watts' husband, Chris Watts allegedly confesses to murder The Colorado Bureau of Investigation reported that three-year-old Celeste Watts and four-year-old Bella Watts are also dead along with mom Shanann. He could have planned to go to work early that morning so as to avoid talking to Shanann. Autopsy shows oil, water, and sludge in their lungs, which cannot happen when you are dead. I know that OCD was mentioned on several instances in the Discovery by those who knew her, but do they have the qualifications to make that diagnosis? As for the one person Im referring to I think ignoring them is pretty much a good idea (: Im not a contributor to this conversation. When youre pregnant, your chest grows significantly and pretty rapidly- its completely understandable that she might have been wearing one to bed. Heres another: https://www.timeslive.co.za/news/south-africa/2017-11-23-susan-rohde-sustained-too-many-injuries-to-hang-herself-pathologist/. There are a lot of types online who get off on blaming victims for what others do. They did not even attend the wedding and barely knew their grandchildren from what I gathered. Maybe im not reading this correctly or i missed it but what proof does this autopsy shows that chris beyond a reasonable doubt killed his kids? But thats me. I think she was killed in the basement, just by the bottom of the staircase, by the fridges and the area where they stored old rope. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/12/lkl.01.html, https://shakedowntitle.com/tag/scott-peterson/, http://www.timescall.com/ci_32281483/autopsy-reports-show-shanann-watts-daughters-were-asphyxiated, https://letsqueerthingsup.com/2018/05/12/i-didnt-know-i-had-ocd-heres-why-the-stereotypes-are-so-harmful/, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYC7bHIzuqE, https://crimerocket.com/2018/11/02/shanann-watts-intended-to-brand-baby-niko-and-credit-thrive-for-her-perfect-pregnancy-but-her-plan-backfired/, https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-woman-made-a-life-changing-decision-after-her-husband-gave-600000-to-a-cult-2017-07-10, Christopher Watts: What else do we know? Id recite a few examples from case law but I dont think youre really here to discuss anything. So the agent says what about strangling? It doesn't appear that the autopsy did a very thorough check. @Nick, regarding OCD. IF the girls were sedated (with ShanAnns leftover oxycodone) before suffocation, it would have been very easy to make sure they were both in diapers CeCe was still wearing nighttime diapers at least, and these would have served for an incapacitated Bella they didnt need to be the right size, since she wouldnt be moving around. I find it more comfortable & Ive always been afraid of sagging. There is no soul in his eyes. Very hard to think a dad can do that but my ex just turned, didnt want any of his family anymore and still has very little contact for the past 8 years. This sick bastard should have done everyone a favor and took his own life. Hey, I appreciate ppls input but to act all high and mighty and be disrespectful of others by trying to make them look and feel like idiotsI dont care how much you know or how smart you are. Thanks! And, as you point out in one of your replies to anothers comment about the oil in her body, there was no oil in her lungs, in her stomach yes, in her lungs no. Infuriating! Celeste did NOT have any found in hers?? But then whats your scenario? Nickole Atkinson was first to sound the alarm; she told police she dropped Shannan off and Shannon was 15 weeks pregnant and not feeling well. She is OCD and very ritualistic in nature. Now i fully beleive NK was in on plan, her idea to put bodies in tanks to help disolve them. When people die, sudden or expected, contents of their bowels and bladder are expelled. Im sure if he were pretending to sleep she would have been so tired she would have gone to sleep right away, thinking well talk in the morning, things will be better tomorrow. This was the 6th MLM that ShanAnn had been involved in she was apparently a MLM junkie. Exiting rooms. He was holding me down by sitting on me, one leg on each side of my stomache. He also said he didnt know where they were and he thought they were coming back. Saying she will be there with lollipops and other things. A Stranglehold can incapacitate and render unconsciousness within 5 11 seconds. After that, then everything started going bad and stressing him out. With ShanAnn, IF she was attacked and killed shortly after she arrived home, while still downstairs, she would have still been dressed her underwear and pants would have caught it. Please explain. Of course we dont know what shes talking about. Celestes stomach was empty. (blood chokes, carotid restraints or sleeper holds) People with OCD have rituals. Then he felt he had to kill CeCe too. Chris probably told shannan that shed never see the kids again.. October 3, 2018 / 12:35 PM / CBS Colorado. The police reports contain several photos showing the oil drums where the childrens bodies were found. 5 PM the previous evening, as many of us believe, then by the time he was ready to pass them through the thief hatches, theyd be pliable again. The agents stressed the words ran & walked because they were inconsistent & made no sense. 75 mls is about 5 tablespoons or a third of a standard cup. Both my kids were blue and they were gone. He kind of giggled & said like you mean like on TV like a magician. The autopsy results aren't available, but the funeral and grave site suggest that Niko's remains were either removed, destroyed or buried with his mother. Please have respect for people who suffer with the condition, and research it before you comment about it. B . In fact, I wonder if LeVel pulled some strings in Chris plea bargain it would certainly be better for the MLM to not have details about its pernicious effect on this familys finances coming out in a court trial. 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